Monday, December 10, 2007 - The bits: Download ASP.NET 3.5 Extensions (includes MVC) The Toolkit (contains the UI Helpers - you'll want this too) Download here. Learn about it: ASP.NET MVC Framework ASP.NET MVC Framework (Part 1) ASP.NET MVC Framework (Part 2): URL Routing ASP.NET MVC Framework (Part 3): Passing ViewData from Controllers to Views ASP.NET MVC Framework (Part 4): Handling Form Edit and Post Scenarios Learn more about the HTML Helpers: ASP.NET MVC Preview: Using The MVC UI Helpers Unit Testing With MVC TDD and Dependency Injection with ASP.NET MVC This is a CTP so please know that it will be changing as we drive towards release. Your voice is important in this process so if you have any issues - please be sure to let us know.
One thing I noticed in ScottHa's (brilliant) screencast where he used your helpers, was that they didn't seem to produce valid xhtml. Attributes didn't weren't quoted which went for both the form (method=post) and the textboxes.
It would be nice to see some attention or Q/A in that as I finally think that it's rather easy to do valid html with ASP.NET and I *really* don't want to hear the con-.net people talk about messy markup again (like in the 1.1 days).
A part from that, can't wait to see this go to release :)
What will be the roadmap for SubSonic vs ADO.NET Entity Framework? Where do I possition SubSonic in the hole MVC / Entity framework?
Thanks in advance,
Bart
@Mikkel: Check this post:
http://www.lazycoder.com/weblog/index.php/archives/2007/12/10/using-the-aspnet-mvc-framework-with-visual-web-developer-express/
@Shawn: That was a late-night gaff and I apologize. The people on the team were routing it for comments and I think it just didn't get transposed. I've already reset it to text and will make sure it gets in there on the next drop of the toolkit which should be in [I have no idea but less than 30] days.
Next question, as far as the model portion what would you suggest? I've been using the SubSonic MVC templates and realized I'm going to get an odd little clash with the SubSonic controllers/views when all I really want now is the model portion.
Also, how will this interact with the build providers portion of SubSonic? Does the .abp file still get put in the App_Code folder even though that's not really a standard ASP.NET folder in a MVC app? Would you suggest just forgetting SubSonic with this drop and using LINQ instead or would you revert to using the non-MVC SubSonic templates when playing with these bits?
Or... the short, less rambling version... where does SubSonic fit in with this CTP? :)
In terms of where we're going, I just worked up the first spec (including a project name :) and will try to fire that out the door at the end of next week.
Short answer: it fits quite well :)
Thanks, but where do I see SubSonic ORM vs. Linq to SQL classes?
The MVCToolkit is neat to play with... ;-)
Thanks,
Bart P
@Bart - thanks :). I'm not sure how to put this other than I'm not in a competitive stance with Linq etc and I tend to stay away from "versus" comparisons. We have a roadmap and we're gonna keep rolling alongside (and sometimes sideways to) Linq, EntitySpaces, etc.
when i put checkbox to my view and then try to use UpdateFrom extension method i get an PopulateTypeException.
I also found that it's because when checkbox is checked it doesn't send any "true"/"1" etc. which can be converted by BooleanConverter.
Well... that's it for now ;)
Regards