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Microsoft, SubSonic, and Me

This is the sixth rewrite of this post. It's not that I don't know how to write a thought, nor that people are telling me what to write. It's just a big deal (at least to me).

I've asked some friends for help and some have chipped in with "are you sure you want to say THAT" or "I think you sound like a drone" or even worse: "dude this is bland. You've lost your voice" (losing your voice, to someone who likes to write, really sucks).

I'm not trying to get all "Moment In Time"-y here, but this really, truly means a lot to me.

Rather than try and come up with some lame metaphors and trite pop-culture references, I've decided to use some advice from English 101 Professor:

"Whatever the hell you're trying to say, just say it"

So I will: I'm going to work for Microsoft. I just signed the offer letter. I'll be working with the ASP.NET guys on the new MVC platform as well as some other groovy things like Silverlight. I get to work "across the hall" from one of my very good friends - Phil Haack.

This is good stuff - something that my buddies will decide requires a few extra shots before the night is through. But it's a lot more than that, and this is the part that's making this post hard to write...

ScottGu called me a few weeks back and said something that I still think back on and wonder who doped his Corn Flakes:

"It would be fun to see how we can help you build out SubSonic a little more... maybe in a fulltime capacity with us?"

Talking to Scott is unnerving enough. Having him bring up SubSonic and "fulltime" in the same sentence is, well, just plain ridiculous. Whatever he put in the Corn Flakes... I want some!

So that's the deal: I'm going to work for Microsoft, and my job will be to build out SubSonic as the "sweetness" on top of ASP.NET and (more notably) the new MVC platform. SubSonic will be the convention-driven toolset for Microsoft's new MVC framework. Someone slap me.

Not only that, but I also get to work on the "knowledge" front - creating webcasts and writing up tutorials for MVC/ASP/SubSonic. I love making webcasts (if you can't tell) and getting paid for it is just ridiculous!

I think it's worth pointing out that SubSonic hasn't been "bought". Some might smell a conspiracy here, but I'll leave that to the X-Files and Cap'n Crunch crowd to drum up all the evil reasons why the mothership has "beamed me up". SubSonic will remain under the same MPL 1.1 license it rob-of-borgalways has, and will remain as completely Open Source as it always has - nothing will change at all. I'm just getting paid, essentially, to work on it :).

If you're a doubter, let me just say that I had some questions myself (when offered the job), to be honest. I was in Redmond just a month ago and when I got there, Scott told me he wanted to show me some MVC stuff but insisted that he replace my eyeballs with these glowing metal orbs. They kind of hurt... but only when I blink.

Then he hit me up with the job idea and I fell right out of my chair.

When I got up (and fixed my hair) all I could think was...

"Why me? Why now?".

Scott: "I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something new going on with the Web. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?"

Me: "The MVC Project…"

Scott: "Do you want to know what it, is?"

Me: "Sure... but...why do my eyes hurt…?"

Scott: "You've never used them. They're a new beta model and we think you'll make the perfect test subject. Just make sure UAC is turned off…"

I probably shouldn't make jokes about the UAC since, well I'm now a "Blue Badge" and all. But to me, this is one of the best parts of the whole deal (that I can indeed, joke about it).

I'm working for Shawn Burke, one of the "boss guys" in "DevDiv" who works for Scott and who also runs the AJAX Control Toolkit project on CodePlex (he's also the guy who drove the .NET Framework Reference Source program).

The main reason I took this job was because of the chance to work with Shawn and his team. I've been working with these guys (on contract) for the last 8 months or so, and during that time have had a chance to see that there are some truly talented and flat out bitchen people working at Microsoft. When the contract started I was kind of wary - Shawn's a workaholic who runs Iron Man's (not kidding) on the weekends. I've worked with those guys before, and it hasn't been fun.

I started rehearsing the "it's not OK to call me at 3am" phone call after the contract started but luckily, to date, haven't had to use it :). To be honest I think I hassle Shawn far more than I ever feared he'd hassle me. Not sure why he got that restraining order... but ... nevermind.

The clincher was the a conversation we had (Shawn and I), "discussing terms" of my position. Of major importance to me was SubSonic and my blog - I've developed my "rep" over the last few years and I really don't want people to think that either have been compromised or that I've "lost my edge". This is crucial to me. I decided to be direct with him and make sure we both understood these important points:

"I want to be sure I have complete creative control over SubSonic, and that you don't censor my blog... is that cool?"

Shawn's response is why I took the job:

"Well Duh..." (he added some more things that were a bit more eloquent than "duh" - but I don't think I was listening).

I can make jokes about the UAC on my blog? And make up fictional Matrix converstations with ScottGu? Sign me up! I start on November 12th, right after DevConnections in Vegas (come on by if you're out that way at the DNN Open Force).

This weekend I'll put together a webcast and a more thorough post to show what I've been working on with MVC, and also write a bit more about where SubSonic is headed.

So that's the deal. I've just been offered a really cool job, working with people I like on the tool I love. The result will hopefully to make your lives better so you can go home and watch Survivor with your family or play with your kids in the park before the sun goes down.

That's what drives me. We work too hard and I've always felt there are ways to get our work done so we can get home to the things that are truly important. I'm not about complaining or throwing stones - I've tried to work it from the inside and the door to the Chocolate Factory has just been opened...

Zack Owens avatar
Zack Owens says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
We all knew this day was upon us :) Once they snagged up Phil, Rob was soon to follow. Anways, congrats!!!!!! It's cool big community players such as Phil, ScottHa (umm... Hanselman), and yourself work from Microsoft. Since they're paying you to make ASP.NET MVC "Sugar" with SubSonic, I know it's gonna rock!

Dominick avatar
Dominick says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congrats! This sounds like a great deal for you and SubSonic. I can't wait to see where it goes from here. I just wrote a little article about SubSonic and how great it is so I'm happy for you! Here's the article if you wanted to read it

Dietrich avatar
Dietrich says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
I think that's great news. Will that effect how you utilizes JQuery with SubSonic? I believe JQuery is ushering in a paradigm shift in how web interfaces are programmed and that SubSonic (and also Rails) and JQuery is a incredible combination. I'll don't think I'll ever use the asp.net Ajax Toolkit again. Congratulations, --Dietrich

Ralf avatar
Ralf says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congrats Rob, hope to hear as much clever blog posts in the future as you did in the past. As Phil Haack signed at MS I was wondering how long it´ll take... Don´t get brain washed. Congrats again Ralf

Eric avatar
Eric says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congratulations. I have yet to try out Subsonic. I looked at it way early in the game and didn't really think much of it. Maybe it's like 10x now, what it was then (a Rails "Me Too Iguana")? Once again... congratulations with the nod! Large ups to you.

Kevin Isom avatar
Kevin Isom says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Wow Congratulations Rob. That is so awsome for you.....and for SubSonic....and for everyone in the community as well. So hurry up and get to work so we can get the MVC goodness too.... And get them to send you to TechEd NZ next year so I can get you the Steinlager I promised. Cheers

JD avatar
JD says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Fantastic news. Congratulations Rob! Keep rocking!

Eric avatar
Eric says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
You know... I think I'm going to check out Subsonic tonight. Maude clear my schedule!

Josh Stodola avatar
Josh Stodola says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congratulations, man! Sounds like a dream come true. You'll do great. Best regards...

Paul Wilson avatar
Paul Wilson says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congrats Rob ! Sounds like a good deal for you, MS, and us.

Rob Conery avatar
Rob Conery says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Thanks for the nice thoughts - much appreciated. No worries @Ralf - I gave my KoolAid to Phil :)

Rob Howard avatar
Rob Howard says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Wow -- congrats Rob! This is great news!

Ayende @ Rahien avatar
Ayende @ Rahien says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Microsoft, SubSonic and Open Source... Microsoft, SubSonic and Open Source...

Haacked avatar
Haacked says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Follows me around like a lovesick puppy. Dude, why isn't my gravatar working?

gabe avatar
gabe says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congrats!!! This should make it easier for me to convince my office-mate to use SubSonic since he is such a m$-fanboy :)

Kevin Dente avatar
Kevin Dente says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Oh, SNAP. Congrats. I probably should have seen this coming. One key piece of info you left out - are you leaving Hawaii? Moving to Redmond? Like Mr "I'm tired of the sun" Haack?

Rob Conery avatar
Rob Conery says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
@Haacked: Microsoft didn't approve of your Gravatar and I was asked to remove it. Dude WTF? First you mess up the MVP badge, and now THIS! Phil I can't keep covering for you... Can I get you some coffee sir?

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DotNetKicks.com says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Rob Conery going to Microsoft... You've been kicked (a good thing) - Trackback from DotNetKicks.com...

Chris Brandsma avatar
Chris Brandsma says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congratulations, hope it goes well. Now get back to the JQuery integration! :)

Alex avatar
Alex says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congratulations Rob! I knew that choosing Subsonic was the right decision, this came to confirm it.

Rob Bazinet avatar
Rob Bazinet says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Great news Rob and a well-deserved congratulations. I guess Microsoft does "get it". It will be cool to see all the new developers we can have in Subsonic with you working full-time.

Fear and Loathing avatar
Fear and Loathing says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Going Microsoft... We talk a lot about the ALT.NET community and how it's not anti-Microsoft but rather alternatives to...

Steven Harman avatar
Steven Harman says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congrats buddy! It's been killing me not to mention this publicly so I'm glad the cat is finally out of the bag... now go get in line for the fire hose like everyone else! :)

Keyvan Nayyeri avatar
Keyvan Nayyeri says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congratulations, Rob! This is great news for the community :-)

Dave avatar
Dave says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congratulations man! I just started porting my company's app over to use SubSonic and have been loving every minute of it....well maybe not every minute, but most of the time! To be honest I'm jealous! Maybe if I blogged more often about the things I was doing I'd get a call too...ah well there's always the future I suppose ;) One thing I'm confused on is how SubSonic will work with DLINQ? It has always seemed more like a competitor to DLINQ....Watching your podcast comparing the two is what really has me wondering... In either event, this is a great day for ya! Congratulations once again!!

Shawn Oster avatar
Shawn Oster says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Completely freaking awesome in so many words! Keep on being *you* and pumping out those SubSonic releases and updates and late night pearls of wisdom.

kevin avatar
kevin says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
congrats Rob! MS hearts subsonic... nice :)

Shawn Burke avatar
Shawn Burke says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
All your base are belong to us.

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you've been HAACKED says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Mr Subsonic Joins Microsoft... Mr Subsonic Joins Microsoft...

Sean Scally avatar
Sean Scally says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
This is a vindication for not just you but the whole SubSonic community. Maybe we weren't all crazy after all. :) I have been wondering what the migration path from SS to LinqToSql would be in the years ahead, and now it looks like it won't be as big of an issue as I thought it might. In any case, congrats. Seeing MS making good hiring decisions always makes me hopeful that life as a MS developer will keep getting better.

Tomas Restrepo avatar
Tomas Restrepo says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congratulations Rob, hope you have lots of fun on your new job!

ESICO avatar
ESICO says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congrats! Leaving the hawaian scene? [- Try to keep SubSonic as elegant as it is -]

Matt Blodgett avatar
Matt Blodgett says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
I _knew_ it! How long before Galloway and Atwood fall?

josh avatar
josh says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
should have taken the blue pill. kidding. Congrats. You and Haacked in the same building now. Should be interesting.

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Use little words... says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Rob Conery ... Rob Conery ...

Jason Monroe avatar
Jason Monroe says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
What else is there to say beside congrats!! 1. Are you going to stay in Hawaii? 2. Did you make Scott Guthrie include a special "We gotta hire Eric Kemp too" clause in your contract? :) Nothing but green envy of course :) Look forward for excellent things ahead :)

Geri Langlois avatar
Geri Langlois says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
OK -- I bought the NASA bit hook, line, and sinker -- even sold people on using a subsonic based app because it was NASA approved. That was April fool's day. This is not. By still, is this for real? If it is, congrats and I'll have to say that Jon Galloway is prophetic -- didn't he say that Microsoft should ship Subsonic with Atlas?

kiran avatar
kiran says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
I totally saw this coming. Congrats, Rob.

Remmus avatar
Remmus says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congratulations Rob. I really hope SubSonic continues to get the support from the opensource community and people's expectations remain in perspective. Let me know if you want an apprentice and can get me a visa :P

Ivan Porto Carrero avatar
Ivan Porto Carrero says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
I like what I'm seeing from Microsoft lately... I like what I'm seeing from Microsoft lately...

marco avatar
marco says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
congrats Rob! and well done Microsoft!

Michael Cullina avatar
Michael Cullina says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congratulations Rob. This will be a great thing all around.

Simone avatar
Simone says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Seems like my Friday night out prevented me from being among the first ones to congratulate with you. Congratulations man!!! I wish I was among you, Phil and Scott... Simo

CodeClimber avatar
CodeClimber says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Subsonic turns Microsoft... Subsonic turns Microsoft...

Denny Ferrassoli avatar
Denny Ferrassoli says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
O-M-F-G... Sweet... absolutely sweet. Congrats, you've been a great inspiration and community leader. Microsoft is really moving in the right direction.. Thank You ScottGu!!!!!!!!!!

FoxyBlog avatar
FoxyBlog says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Le notizie che fanno male al morale... Le notizie che fanno male al morale...

Brandon Wagner avatar
Brandon Wagner says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Rob. Blast from the past, here... Congrats on the new jobby job...let's catch up, sometime.

Hector Sosa, Jr avatar
Hector Sosa, Jr says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Congratz Rob! I kind of figured you would be next after Phil and Scott got assimilated, erm, hired by Microsoft. Love SubSonic! Can't wait to see what is in SubSonic's future.

Shawn Burke's Blog avatar
Shawn Burke's Blog says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Growing the family... It's a boy! No, no, no not that. If you're a SubSonic fan, you may have seen Rob Conery's blog today...

Stuart Allen avatar
Stuart Allen says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
This news is really good to hear. Now my love affair with SubSonic can live on forever with the backing of M$. Best of luck to you Rob, can't wait to see whats in store next.

Morgan TIley avatar
Morgan TIley says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S !!! I'm very excited for you ... and the future of subsonic :)

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Top ASP.NET Items says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Growing the family... It's a boy! No, no, no not that. If you're a SubSonic fan, you may have seen Rob Conery's blog today...

Kent Sharkey avatar
Kent Sharkey says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
Crap. er. congratulations. And yes, the Kool-aid doesn't forbid UAC jokes.

Richie de Almeida avatar
Richie de Almeida says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
"...my job will be to build out SubSonic as the “sweetness” on top of ASP.NET and (more notably) the new MVC platform. SubSonic will be the convention-driven toolset for Microsoft’s new MVC framework. Someone slap me." Wow. Just... wow! ... That's really the dream, doing something out of passion then someone comes along and helps you make a living out of it. Well done.

Rick Arthur avatar
Rick Arthur says:
Friday, October 26, 2007
I take offense at the "Captain Crunch Crowd" remark!! I happen to really like the ones with the little crunch berries. With some nice cold milk over the top.... Wait, I think I need a bowl now.

Jon Galloway avatar
Jon Galloway says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
@Rob - Congrats!!! I never saw this coming. ;-) Now I can stop worrying about accidentally leaking that all my friends are going to work for Microsoft... @Matt Blodgett - I'm super happy for for these guys, but I have no intention of leaving Vertigo unless they fire me or trade me to the Cleveland Indians or something. I'm absolutely loving working at Vertigo, showing off the cool technologies Microsoft is pumping out. @Geri Langlois - I'll have to admit I was thinking that as I read Rob's post. http://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/archive/2006/08/30/SubSonic-_2800_formerly-ASP.NET-ActionPack_2900_-_2D00_-Microsoft-should-ship-this-with-Atlas.aspx

Kenneth avatar
Kenneth says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Congrats Rob!

Picacodigos avatar
Picacodigos says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Congrats, Rob!! You just made my day, now I'm REALLY excited about MVC.NET. But, if SubSonic is getting "official" ... what about LINQ?

Picacodigos avatar
Picacodigos says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Otro, otro!... ...

Frans Bouma avatar
Frans Bouma says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Congratulations, Rob, for landing this great sounding job! :)

Ryan Keeter avatar
Ryan Keeter says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Congratulations Rob! Do you have to move..you mentioned working across the "hall," I didn't know if you were really thinking of moving.

Sergey avatar
Sergey says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Congrats Rob! Everyone wins from this :)

The Other Steve avatar
The Other Steve says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Tell us more about the relationship of subsonic and Microsoft. This is awesome.

adolfojp avatar
adolfojp says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Congrats Rob! This is great news and beyond awesome! It is also great to see Microsoft not only listening and embracing the community but also hiring it. :-P By the way, say goodbye to your MVP status. ;-)

Brian avatar
Brian says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Congrats Rob! Looking forward to MVC.

Joe Brinkman avatar
Joe Brinkman says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
@Rob - Glad to see you finally come clean ;-) Although I do feel a little sorry for you... I hope you got extra pay from Microsoft for being forced to put up with Phil full time. Although it does make me wonder why Microsoft is hiring away all the talent from our Open Source panels at OpenForce next week? Can't exactly get you or Phil to bash MS on the panel when your boss is sitting right there ;-). I must say though... it has been a pretty great year for people writing Open Source on .Net. First Clemens, then John, then Scott, then Phil and now you. I think we better start screening Shaun's email.

Adnan avatar
Adnan says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Congrats Rob. This is fantastic news for the community. Really excited to see what the future brings for SubSonic

Dana avatar
Dana says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Holy Crap! This made my day! This is great news as I was worried that you and Eric were getting more interested in other stuff (Silverlight, LINQ, marriages, etc...) and less and less involved with Subsonic. A selfish hope I have is that sonic.exe remains an important element of Subsonic rather than the integrated build provider. I really like having a Subsonic middle tier that is used by WinForms apps as well as ASP.NET apps. So far it is working well for me and being able to step into the code to see what it is doing is huge. Best of luck with the new job!

Brennan Stehling avatar
Brennan Stehling says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
That is a long commute. :) Congrats Rob!

Damien Guard avatar
Damien Guard says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Congratulations buddy! [)amien

Miguel de Icaza avatar
Miguel de Icaza says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Wow. And just a few weeks ago I was wondering about this, but thinking "he would never leave Hawaii" Congratulations! Miguel.

Mike avatar
Mike says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
I hope this will make SubSonic more focussed, just the Active Record pattern, no Sugar or whatever (that can be moved into an Extension Methods project). Hopefully also better integration with Visual Studio. So, Microsoft will support you working on a project that is hosted at Google? I hope they don't force you to move the code to CodePlex (slow website and don't get me started on Team Explorer). Well, good luck, and please keep the project focussed, and add some of that Microsoft polish, I'm sure they can help with that. Thanks!

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Console.Write(this.Opinion) says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Novidades para o SubSonic... Novidades para o SubSonic...

Dave Nielsen avatar
Dave Nielsen says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
The Truth! - for those of you wondering how it came to this. Rob was swinging from his bat helicopter on his bat rope when he latched onto Microsoft HQ. His copter was squealing, trying to lift it off the ground, but Microsoft wouldn't budge. Rather than cut bait and give up on the mothership, Rob decided to anchor down, climb on top and use SubSonic to help Microsoft build a Space Ladder to the moon. Good luck Rob, we're all rooting for you! Dave

ESICO avatar
ESICO says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
@Dave Hi Dave, what kind of mushrooms did you eat? hawaian? or mexican? ;)

OJ avatar
OJ says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Congratulations! I'm sure I'm in the same boat as many others that read this blog in that I knew that this would eventually happen. Based your history I'd be surprised if you'd signed up for something that allowed control to be handed over to your employer. I'm glad to see that you'll have strong financial backing to make your software better than it already is. I wish you all the best in your new role, and look forward to seeing the goodies you produce! Good luck :)

WooZoo avatar
WooZoo says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
"flat out bitchen people working at Microsoft. " I really liked your blog till now, but your immature use of playground speak is scary. Cussing is for people without command of their language and I know that’s not the case with you, you're a decent writer.

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Anastasiosyal says:
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Microsoft is definately taking a step in the right derection taking you on board!! Oh the future is sooooooooo exciting for all of us MS fanboys in anticipation of what you will be spining out of there!!! Yippeeee is all I can say :) As a developer that was concerned with webforms I am so happy about the MVC MS is spinning, I am even happier that both You and Phil have been hired full time to participate into this effort and MS to embrace Subsonic is excellent news. But how is Subsonic going to go Side by side with Linq, what about Jasper and the Entity model how do they fit side by side with subsonic, or do you see this as another option in our toolbox and we make the calls? Do you see it as a viable option though? For example maybe you'd want to add your controller facade over a linq data layer... Just wondering whats going to be the 'best practice' data access strategy that MS will be pushing. It cant be all of them, sure its nice to have many tools, but I cant see them all being best practice in the end. Congratulations of course, you've earned it!

Caffeinated Coder avatar
Caffeinated Coder says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
My Underpants Gnome Business Plan... My Underpants Gnome Business Plan...

C# avatar
C# says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
SubSnoic... This announcement of Robert Conery lead me to the Subsonic project. Quickly watched the intro screencast, very interesting DAL generator, generates LINQ style functions on DB objects.Will l ......

Rob Conery avatar
Rob Conery says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
@WooZoo: LOL too funny. If "bitchen" is playground speak then I'm a donut. Uh oh... DHH is that you? @Everyone - thank you MUCH for the nice thoughts - I REALLY REALLY appreciate it. You don't know how much! In terms of me leaving Kauai... I'm sorry I didnt hear you... do what? No :) - not leaving Kauai, but it's only by virtue of the fact that there's a dev center in Honolulu, that I'll be flying to Redmond often, and that I wouldn't mention it on my blog.... oops.

Steve Trefethen avatar
Steve Trefethen says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Congrats Rob! I've been a fan of SubSonic for about a year now and this makes a lot of sense. Keep up the great work!

Yanin Kwiatkovsky avatar
Yanin Kwiatkovsky says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Wow. That's really awesome news Rob, I'm excited for you. It's really interesting to see what comes out of this... :) Cheers.

LarryKathy avatar
LarryKathy says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Cool!!!! Please keep keeping us informed.... Thanks

oVan avatar
oVan says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Now that's a smart move, both ways! Many congratulations!!

Mads Kristensen avatar
Mads Kristensen says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Congrats man!

C# avatar
C# says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
SubSonic... This announcement of Robert Conery lead me to the Subsonic project. Quickly watched the intro screencast, very interesting DAL generator, generates LINQ style functions on DB objects.Will l ......

Buddy Lindsey avatar
Buddy Lindsey says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Awesome job man. Hope to see some more great stuff soon.

Caffeinated Coder avatar
Caffeinated Coder says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
What Do Underpants Gnomes and Rob Conery Have in Common?... What Do Underpants Gnomes and Rob Conery Have in Common?...

adminjew avatar
adminjew says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Congratulations Rob - Hatzlacha

Jim Zimmerman avatar
Jim Zimmerman says:
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Subsonic and Microsoft... ...

Steve Trefethen's Weblog avatar
Steve Trefethen's Weblog says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
Subsonic DAL now backed by Microsoft... ...

Jitesh avatar
Jitesh says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
awesome :)

Cornel Hattingh avatar
Cornel Hattingh says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
Brilliant Rob Congrats. Seems hard work DOES pay of after all then.

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Michael Könings Blog says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
MVC, Castle, SubSonic, bye bye WebForms ?... Ab jetzt schreibe ich in deutsch :-) ) Microsofts ASP.NET Team rund um Mastermind Scott Guthrie hat einen...

Wyatt Barnett avatar
Wyatt Barnett says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
Congrats Rob. I wonder how long it will be until the borg is fully infested.

Brad avatar
Brad says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
Congrats Rob on becoming Microserf? You'll definitely add to the brain trust.

Rafael avatar
Rafael says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
Rob Congratulations. I think is great for everybody (MS, Rob, developers). I think it has been a very wise decision to have you, ScottGu and Phil together. Looking forward for the MVC! Rafael

Bertrand Le Roy avatar
Bertrand Le Roy says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
Congratulations on joining the team. Looking forward to working with you...

Abhilash M S avatar
Abhilash M S says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
Congrats Rob and Nice to know that subsonic will remain it's spirit and so will your blogs be

David avatar
David says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
Congrats Rob. Why does MS need LINQ and SubSonic?

Peter Bromberg avatar
Peter Bromberg says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
Rob, I always liked the Subsonic concept and now you have a chance to really mainstream it with a lot more support. Best of luck.

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CodeClimber says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
2007 OpenSource Carved Pumpkin... 2007 OpenSource Carved Pumpkin...

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adminjew says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
I think NOW "Microsoft is Getting it";)

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faco says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
Now MS will pantent all your ideas and ways to implement things. After that they will claim that none of us can use their panteted ideas without paying a license. Is not about access to source code. It's about freedom... I won't tell you "don't work for them". But, if you believe "nothing will change at all", you are wrong.

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Rob Conery says:
Monday, October 29, 2007
@faco: You forgot to spell it "M$" :). Do you still leave the light on when you go to bed at night?

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Christian Convey says:
Tuesday, October 30, 2007
Rob, You're signing on with a company that: * Holds out patent threats against Linux users / developers, but won't specify what they are. * Has an unrepentant history of trying to grab control of protocols by "embracing and extending" them. * Has been convicted of abusing its monopoly powers by illegal product tying in order to take over new markets (Netscape. Google on "cut off air supply".) Rob, you should realize that regardless of how nice the work is or how nice your immediate coworkers are, the organization you're supporting with your work is rotten to the core. You should not feel good about supporting them. I encourage you to dream big in terms of how you put your talents to use. Don't settle for this. Life is too short, and there are too many people in need.

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Steve Trefethen's Weblog says:
Tuesday, October 30, 2007
Microsoft's interesting "embrace" of Windows Open Source... ...

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Casey says:
Tuesday, October 30, 2007
Rob, big congratulations, you've worked damn hard on SubSonic, made a great product, and the backing of MS to let you develop it further can only make it better. To anyone still spelling MS with a $, or listing any 'bad things' that MS does... move on, life is just too short to worry. Until then, accept Rob's word that SubSonic remains open to you, and look forward to all it will deliver in future.

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